# 2016/17 Winter Trail Conditions **URL:** \ **Category:** Bicycling\ **Created:** [December 13, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628 "2016-12-13T13:28:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rolls](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/rolls/32/20889_2.png) [@Rolls](https://ecmtb.net/u/Rolls)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/1 "2016-12-13T13:28:29Z")
A lot of folks ride right through the winter, use this thread to keep everyone updated on trail conditions. ---
**Author:** ![JeffV](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/jeffv/32/2029_2.png) [@JeffV](https://ecmtb.net/u/JeffV)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/3 "2016-12-13T13:32:48Z")
> [@Shubie rideable?](http://ecmtb.net/t/shubie-rideable/4627): > > Is Shubie rideable? Has it been plowed? ---
**Author:** ![riderx](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/riderx/32/2821_2.png) [@riderx](https://ecmtb.net/u/riderx)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/4 "2016-12-13T13:54:20Z")
I am looking forward to Wrandees as soon as it’s good to go… Love that place in the winter. Another great place is Uniacke Estates… ---
**Author:** ![JeffV](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/jeffv/32/2029_2.png) [@JeffV](https://ecmtb.net/u/JeffV)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/5 "2016-12-13T13:57:56Z")
Does Uniacke Estates get any dog walker traffic in the winter to beat it down? ---
**Author:** ![bent6543](https://ecmtb.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@bent6543](https://ecmtb.net/u/bent6543)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/6 "2016-12-13T14:02:26Z")
Yes the closer trails (Drumlin Field Trail) and the one that goes to the fire station (Murphy Lake Trail) get lots of walkers. The longer loops (Post Road Trail, Red Spruce) get lots of snowshoe and ski as well. ---
**Author:** ![riderx](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/riderx/32/2821_2.png) [@riderx](https://ecmtb.net/u/riderx)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/7 "2016-12-13T14:18:42Z")
It’s a lot like Wrandees in that some sections are just super rooty in the summer and the winter, white gold! Will be interesting to see what Irishmans’ will be like. Don’t forget Hemlock ravine, and the dingle tower. Both get lots of traffic and if ridden at night, not many pedestarians. ---
**Author:** ![bent6543](https://ecmtb.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@bent6543](https://ecmtb.net/u/bent6543)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/8 "2016-12-13T14:32:31Z")
I will be interested to see what Irishman’s is like too. Traditionally it’s been unrideable, best for ski or snowshoe. It gets post holed to shit by a few people who walk there in the winter with their dogs. In the last couple of years West Hants held some snowshoe hikes there but it was not enough to pack the trails for riding. @Adam and I tried our best to pack it, I even made a groomer to drag but we couldn’t keep up with the snow. It will be interesting to see how much more traffic goes there this year now that it more people know about it. The Archery Club holds a winter event in February, no one wears snowshoes ever and depending on conditions they use atv or snowmobile to get the targets set up, so it is generally a right proper mess on that loop afterwards. ---
**Author:** ![bent6543](https://ecmtb.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@bent6543](https://ecmtb.net/u/bent6543)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 10:55am UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/9 "2016-12-14T10:55:51Z")
Looks like @TrailFlow put a push on to open a new trail for the winter appropriately named “winter loop”: > **[Winter Loop Trail at Irishman's Road Recreation Site](https://www.trailforks.com/trails/winter-loop/)** > > Reclaimed woods road loop, some sections may be seasonably wet. Best for dry seasons and winter use. > **[TrailFlow Outdoor Adventures](https://www.instagram.com/p/BN7FJclAcSl/)** ---
**Author:** ![Pepperjester](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/pepperjester/32/773_2.png) [@Pepperjester](https://ecmtb.net/u/Pepperjester)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 11:39am UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/10 "2016-12-14T11:39:17Z")
Yep, “Winter Loop” just a temp name as I needed something for Trailforks. Seemed like a reasonable placeholder for now, and one that I won’t stress to much if sticks. Basically there was an old woods road that was to be reclaimed as part of our project, not much was to be done to it beyond brush clearing and a bit of mowing. There are a few reroutes (that will be benched as weather permits so their less off camber) that will keep uses away from the marshy areas so I think once that’s done it should stay dry more often then not. It make a great snowshoe loop and would be an excellent ski too! ---
**Author:** ![bent6543](https://ecmtb.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@bent6543](https://ecmtb.net/u/bent6543)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 11:50am UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/11 "2016-12-14T11:50:02Z")
Did you leave the stump chair there? I used to call that section “have a seat” ---
**Author:** ![Adam](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/adam/32/1040_2.png) [@Adam](https://ecmtb.net/u/Adam)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/12 "2016-12-15T13:15:57Z")
Looking forward to hitting it on the XC skis ---
**Author:** ![pmachan](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/pmachan/32/4421_2.png) [@pmachan](https://ecmtb.net/u/pmachan)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/13 "2016-12-18T16:21:27Z")
Line 24/IPA has been snowshoed twice, including last night as it warmed up, so it may be rideable once it freezes, it should compact even more with the rain, so hopefully it will be good. Its packed from the overpass, all the way to the top of line 24. ---
**Author:** ![IanM\_MTB](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/ianm_mtb/32/6250_2.png) [@IanM\_MTB](https://ecmtb.net/u/IanM_MTB)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/14 "2016-12-18T23:20:02Z")
Did some trail recon today. 1. Wrandees: slushy and gross. Maybe for a fat bike, but hasn’t seen enough foot traffic to be packed down. 2. Fight Trail: interesting mix of clear rock and skating rink ice. 3. BLT: ICY. This one we actually rode for a bit, but was largely slushy snow and water-filled icy ruts from the ATV’s. On the plus side, at least got in some bike time on the asphalt and a good core workout trying to stay upright on the BLT! ---
**Author:** ![Pepperjester](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/pepperjester/32/773_2.png) [@Pepperjester](https://ecmtb.net/u/Pepperjester)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/15 "2016-12-19T21:17:07Z")
Brent: Do you mean the one that is literally a seat on a stump? ---
**Author:** ![bent6543](https://ecmtb.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@bent6543](https://ecmtb.net/u/bent6543)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/16 "2016-12-19T22:55:03Z")
That’s the one! ---
**Author:** ![Pepperjester](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/pepperjester/32/773_2.png) [@Pepperjester](https://ecmtb.net/u/Pepperjester)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/17 "2016-12-20T01:02:48Z")
^ ^ Still there. It’s not on the new loop - the skit trail is on the woods road at the bottom of that hill. That section will is on the radar for the future for sure. We should be able to keep the chair as long as it’s still stable. ---
**Author:** ![Rolls](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/rolls/32/20889_2.png) [@Rolls](https://ecmtb.net/u/Rolls)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/18 "2016-12-20T19:56:02Z")
I rode Flipside today…fully rideable from start to finish. About 90% bare, 10% hard packed/crusty snow and very minimal ice. ![](https://ecmtb-uploads-bucket.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/original/2X/0/04f2b0955a11766f24672f72d9884fb15ad2cc8a.JPG) The dirt fire road in from the BLT is another story though…TOTAL SHIT. Barely rideable. But worth the trip in if you stick with it though. ---
**Author:** ![gtrguy](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/gtrguy/32/813_2.png) [@gtrguy](https://ecmtb.net/u/gtrguy)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/19 "2016-12-20T21:36:38Z")
Fire road messy or just frozen? ---
**Author:** ![Rolls](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/rolls/32/20889_2.png) [@Rolls](https://ecmtb.net/u/Rolls)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/20 "2016-12-20T22:18:43Z")
@gtrguy open water, ice, slushy snow, frozen ATV ruts, mud. You name it. ---
**Author:** ![riderx](https://ecmtb.net/user_avatar/ecmtb.net/riderx/32/2821_2.png) [@riderx](https://ecmtb.net/u/riderx)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628/21 "2016-12-30T03:09:36Z")
Bird Sanctuary is super sweet… [Next page](https://ecmtb.net/t/2016-17-winter-trail-conditions/4628.md?page=2)