Car problem

Hey, folks. Had a car problem this evening. I know we have some auto mechanics and knowledgeable automotive folks here, so throwing this out there to see if anyone has insight:

2017 Honda CRV -
@CyclingGirl was driving, accelerating onto a highway, and said the car wasn’t accelerating normally, and the check engine light was flashing. We pulled over and turned the car off to see if it would reboot. We switched seats, and I started driving. When we turned the car on again, I don’t think there were any error messages. I pulled out and started to accelerate, the car shuddered, and the check engine light flashed. I tried to continue to accelerate, and the car continued to shudder. Then a whole bunch of error lights and messages came on. I pulled over. One of the flashing lights was the parking brake indicator, so I checked the parking brake. The brakes seemed initially on, but eventually hitting the parking brake release, the brakes did release. I drove the car slowly and carefully, and it seemed to be behaving normally except for a whole bunch of warning lights and messages on the dash, so carefully drove home.

Error messages are:

  • Adaptive cruise control problem
  • Collision mitigation system problem
  • Road departure mitigation problem
  • Electric parking brake problem
  • Tire pressure monitor system problem
  • Emissions system problem
  • Brake hold system problem
  • Power steering system (EPS) problem
  • Vehicle stability system problem
  • Hill start assist problem

Seems like a bunch of unrelated systems, so thinking computer or electrical system issue. The vehicle goes to the dealer tomorrow for diagnosis.

Any ideas what’s going on with the vehicle?

Umm. Weird. Check engine can be a lot of things as you listed. Dealer will know best. I guess you could Google to see what other 2017 CRV owners have experienced.

Sounds kind of like the throttle sensor issue we’ve had on our old Ridgeline.

No issue until we had throttle in the zone where it was feeding bad values to computer.

It would go away for a while too. Hard to find. It would go away on next restart.

Auto manufacturers recommend safely stopping and having a vehicle towed when the check engine light is flashing especially when there are drivability issues. If the light is solid and vehicle is driving normally it is okay to drive it and have the car scanned.

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Computer, Altenator, battery. Something electronic.

Wiring harness? I just want make a guess, I really wouldn’t have a clue

I had the throttle body go on my KIA at about 23000 from new. Symptoms kinda sound similar to what I experienced when it went.

Hooked up my code reader tonight.3 codes stored:
PO303 Cylinder 3 misfire detected
PO401 Exhaust gas recirculation flow insufficient detected
PO441 Evaporative emission control system incorrect purge flow

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Googling a bit - the most common suggestions are battery and fuel injectors. Seems a number of people with multiple error messages are having fuel injectors replaced.

The misfire is causing the check engine light to flash. It typically flashes when continuing to drive could damage the catalytic converter. I’d tackle the misfire first; depending on your ability, it’s easier to move the spark plug to a different cylinder and move the ignition coil to a different cylinder again, then drive and see what part the problem follows.

For example move the spark plug to cylinder 2 and coil to cylinder 4. Write this down! When you drive again, and it shudders, rescan. If the miss is now on 2, it followed the spark plug.

Don’t forget to check the battery connections. Loose negatives (black cables) can cause all sort of weird faults.

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I literally just had a similar issue with my wifes car and it was the battery.

Can you just take a multimeter, if your have one, and measure (on DC setting) between the positive and negative terminals.

Mine was reading quite low at 7.8volts DC
Changed the battery and all is well :call_me_hand:

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Thanks for all the suggestions and advice, everyone.

On the advice of Colonial Honda, had the car towed (flatbedded) to the dealership.

They replaced the Evap Purge Valve (probably because of the PO401 and PO441 codes), and diagnosed the cylinder 3 misfire as a result of water intrusion on the spark plug. Dried out the plug and boot, and reconnected.

Seems like an odd collection of errors from those two issues, but these modern vehicles and their computers…?

Took the car for a drive last night and drove to work this morning. Seems to be running normally, and no errors reported.

On the plus side, 1300km left on warranty, so part of the repair didn’t cost me anything. :smiley:

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